tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7814543764754729146.post4181964083432235849..comments2024-03-26T20:07:59.406+08:00Comments on 金甲蟲之路: 回GN兄三問(100%完成版)gogoldjoehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10379385900130057274noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7814543764754729146.post-8057475303416897912011-06-04T20:06:55.347+08:002011-06-04T20:06:55.347+08:00GN兄,
這4段留言深入淺出,真有點睛之功!"金銀比例的話語權實非別國可輕視"這...GN兄,<br />這4段留言深入淺出,真有點睛之功!"金銀比例的話語權實非別國可輕視"這句更是寫得中主題核心,哈哈,你比我表達得更好,小弟汗顏。Gordonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05500441871026512277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7814543764754729146.post-43708037994469444542011-06-04T16:04:40.520+08:002011-06-04T16:04:40.520+08:00當行金本位初期時,黃金價格必然超出其內在價值多倍, 因此,中國何不棄黃金,大力收購全球白銀,從而提升...當行金本位初期時,黃金價格必然超出其內在價值多倍, 因此,中國何不棄黃金,大力收購全球白銀,從而提升其價格,使手中白銀增值, 反正對手的手中的白銀籌碼不夠我方多, 而且高科技界中必須使用它. [GN: 若有別國想要大量沽空實銀紙銀壓價,我國亦能大手接貨,反正是工業所必需,作為戰略儲備也合國策。]<br />-->>因此,我認為在這一段短時間內, 世界市場的金銀價格比例有機會去到1:X之數.<<---<br />-----------------------<br /><br />不材冒昧引我兄原文加以述之,是希望清晰愚對我兄思路之了解,情非得已,唐突之處,再求我兄見諒。 4/4Generation Nexthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06128280160151494004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7814543764754729146.post-37097867378509931912011-06-04T16:03:36.404+08:002011-06-04T16:03:36.404+08:00可是,即使有大量黃金在手, 如果有出無入,受制於人,.....還有什麼方法才迫得敵人/市場吐出黃金,...可是,即使有大量黃金在手, 如果有出無入,受制於人,.....還有什麼方法才迫得敵人/市場吐出黃金,進入中國經濟體系內呢? [GN: 答案是保持我國為主要出口國,用方法引導外國以實金付款,即可創造實金淨流入,持之以恆,出入之間有實金盈餘,即可製造本國立足於金本位體制不敗之地的條件]<br />既然白銀歷來也是接受世人認同的貨幣,..... 作為解決6大危機,除了釣魚台危機外,都幫得上忙. [GN: 我國在取得優勢實銀儲備後,加上有外貿盈餘的實金淨流入淨流入支持,金銀比例的話語權實非別國可輕視。] 3/4Generation Nexthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06128280160151494004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7814543764754729146.post-33422540680817619872011-06-04T16:02:17.322+08:002011-06-04T16:02:17.322+08:00
於我兄此文,愚抖膽予以一字曰之為 - "詳"。 有時入園觀花,因花多眼亂,... <br />於我兄此文,愚抖膽予以一字曰之為 - "詳"。 有時入園觀花,因花多眼亂,難免迷惑,汒汒然不知花有所指,觀花者雖非故意,但仍有負園主裁花之心血。愚再抖膽,為我兄一掃花踁,試開蓬門或可讓眾網友一睹我兄言之所指。基於我兄所論已甚詳,愚試引原文以[GN:...]加述之:<br /><br />------------<br />我仔細想過, 其實中國現在實行的外匯進出口限制是一個可行方法. ..... 便可集中力量利用真金白銀向外購買石油,天然氣和糧食. [GN: 這是我國輸出黃金以換取入口,即實金流出。] 2/4Generation Nexthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06128280160151494004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7814543764754729146.post-47746570630501815072011-06-04T16:00:36.575+08:002011-06-04T16:00:36.575+08:00Gorndon兄,
不材有一陋習,正是不喜轉灣抹角,言談間不免唐突,既已自知,愚先行陪罪,望我兄...Gorndon兄,<br /> <br />不材有一陋習,正是不喜轉灣抹角,言談間不免唐突,既已自知,愚先行陪罪,望我兄見諒。<br /> <br />就以文論文,我兄所例資料甚詳,中外文獻,圖文並茂,網頁外鏈,讀之如有入園觀花,讓人有眼界為之一開之感,其間也透徹出我兄對此題目興趣極濃,求知之慾極強。所謂好知者不如樂知者,想我兄必在搜索枯腸間享受了樂在其中耳,先難而後獲,實可喜可賀。1/4Generation Nexthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06128280160151494004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7814543764754729146.post-18096629182278738332011-06-04T00:28:18.842+08:002011-06-04T00:28:18.842+08:00Cefull,
歐洲各國早已開始為減低石油依賴而準備,各種再生能源的應用亦在領先領域。而且雖然同樣...Cefull,<br /><br />歐洲各國早已開始為減低石油依賴而準備,各種再生能源的應用亦在領先領域。而且雖然同樣需要石油,但能源效率高中國很多。<br />另外,中國的稀土生產全球最多,但是不代表中國的稀土儲量也是全球最多。而且,中國剛開放時,沒有管理好出口,日本就在中國廉價出售稀土之際,日本等國趁機收購並儲存了大量稀土,數量夠用數十年。<br /><br />http://paper.wenweipo.com/2010/09/10/CH1009100012.htmGordonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05500441871026512277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7814543764754729146.post-2596659743366846772011-06-04T00:13:38.669+08:002011-06-04T00:13:38.669+08:00GN兄,
劣作如何?敬請指教錯漏地方,好令小弟有所長進。
another的文章確是有見地,精銳,謝...GN兄,<br /><br />劣作如何?敬請指教錯漏地方,好令小弟有所長進。<br />another的文章確是有見地,精銳,謝好介紹!<br />"In CB circles, it is well known that the world debt markets as we know them, can only be maintained with cheap and cheaper oil! Without cheap oil the entire system fails and reverts back to pay as you go economies. This is the central reason for "two price gold".<br /><br />南懷瑾先生也是我敬重的一位殿堂給國學大師,我當年看"易經雜說"一書時,幾近廢寢忘餐。Gordonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05500441871026512277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7814543764754729146.post-3699658994952183782011-06-03T22:38:25.255+08:002011-06-03T22:38:25.255+08:00Re: Cefull
ME was actually getting gold backed USD...Re: Cefull<br />ME was actually getting gold backed USD for their crude, but after Nixon closed the gold windows, ME did not accept fiat. This was the reason of the last oil crisis. According to the story from the Free-gold advocates, to satisfy ME for getting gold for their crude, a sophisticate operation with gold mines, BB, BIS, CB and the Fed was developed. The end result was that the oil crisis was became not a crisis anymoe, crude was denominated by only USD and USD resumed it's reserve currency status, gold fever ended by decades of bear market. The MOST important part was ME was made getting both physical gold and fiat USD!<br /><br />A famous quote:<br />"This is the shabby secret of the welfare statists' tirades against Gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the hidden confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights. If one grasps this, one has no difficulty in understanding the statists' antagonism towards the Gold Standard." <br />Alan Greenspan - Gold and Economic Freedom (1966)Generation Nexthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06128280160151494004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7814543764754729146.post-32165646693952265142011-06-03T22:33:58.887+08:002011-06-03T22:33:58.887+08:00從軍事角度看, 2020年都是個臨界點.
2020年, 北斗導航系統就能覆蓋全球, 這時中國軍隊就有...從軍事角度看, 2020年都是個臨界點.<br />2020年, 北斗導航系統就能覆蓋全球, 這時中國軍隊就有全球打擊的能力. 這是中國軍事建設重中之重. <br />2020年, 東風21丁導彈的數目足以令老美航艦戰鬥群近不了身. 東風41導彈也有足夠數目令老美不敢輕易跨過核戰的門檻.<br />2020年, 殲20也形成了有效戰力, 老美不敢說是穩操制空權.<br />更重要的是, 即使打仗, 主要戰場都會在亞洲, 中國的補給線最短, 後勤補給最方便, 有利於持久作戰.<br />所以今天中國主要的國策是「深挖洞, 廣積糧, 援稱王」, 戰爭可拖就拖, 拖過了這個關鍵時刻就穩操勝券, 到時再向敵人連本帶利的要回來.Cefullnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7814543764754729146.post-87040745833199525462011-06-03T22:10:27.878+08:002011-06-03T22:10:27.878+08:00如果油組宣佈購買原油必須使用黃金, 每桶原油要價若干盎司黃金. 中國是第一大耗油國, 自然是受害最大...如果油組宣佈購買原油必須使用黃金, 每桶原油要價若干盎司黃金. 中國是第一大耗油國, 自然是受害最大的一國. 美國也是大耗油國, 所有工業國家都是耗油國, 誰也逃不掉. <br />中國也有對策, 就是稀土也要用黃金來購買. 美國日本等都是超大的稀土消耗國, 而且稀土的供應彈性低, 一時間很難從別處開採取代. 中國就有東西來抵消因原油流失的黃金. 缺乏資源的國家如日本, 德國則受到毁滅性的打擊.<br />2020年要逼死中國, 依小弟看, 難矣哉.Cefullnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7814543764754729146.post-1266712546993234192011-06-03T17:46:54.039+08:002011-06-03T17:46:54.039+08:00joe兄,
乜呢排唔得閒答埋咁多問題???放大假乎???joe兄,<br /><br />乜呢排唔得閒答埋咁多問題???放大假乎???黃泰利https://www.blogger.com/profile/02212675611025243186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7814543764754729146.post-13518316393527986252011-06-03T15:35:29.813+08:002011-06-03T15:35:29.813+08:00Gordon,
This is another interesting article for ...Gordon, <br /><br />This is another interesting article for the crude oil market:<br />http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1297235340.php<br />Enjoy.Generation Nexthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06128280160151494004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7814543764754729146.post-12034312814963926622011-06-03T12:21:05.282+08:002011-06-03T12:21:05.282+08:00Reply to Matisse;
Matisse;
are you a follower o...Reply to Matisse; <br /><br />Matisse;<br /><br />are you a follower of pastor Lindsey Williams, author of Energy Non-Crisis?? LOLOL <br /><br />one person we should also thank before he past away from last october. Ken Fromme. he was the Mr. X providing all the details to Williams before the panic of 2008, oil run up from 2009 and overthrown of egypt govt in january. unrest in saudi arabia, oil would be trading at 175 to 200.Bill Honghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01663869523524888285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7814543764754729146.post-5661761159248701232011-06-03T11:51:41.070+08:002011-06-03T11:51:41.070+08:00"Curious 提到...
Dear Joe
I think you..."Curious 提到...<br /><br /> Dear Joe<br /><br /> I think you are right that cruel oil is paramount. However, if there is NO energy crisis for US assuming the oil reserve in Alaska, Grand Canyon and so on may much more than Saudi Arabia. "<br /><br />yes, there is NO oil crisis. in the 70s', the oil company built a Trans Alaska pipeline to find oil. and they found A LOT of prime oil in alaska, more than the whole middle east added together. but the US govt suppressed the oil company from digging them out by numerous legislation and 'environment reasons'.so the whole operation had to stop then except for a small area that is allowed. <br /><br />and you wonder why they stop digging out such treasure? <br /><br />you have to understand these people are not stupid. they figured that there are oil in middle east then which those countries have no technology to find. so here's the genious plan they do: <br /><br />they stroke a deal with the middle east countries, whereby they will loan money to middle east to fund oil operation. (sound familiar with what the world bank doing today?) <br />with these money middle east can have buy technology from US company to dig oil. <br /><br />Then the US buy the oil with US dollar. and in return, the middle east will investment a portion of those US dollar in US Treasury bill. <br /><br />so, what the US get? Oil <br />and for what? paper dollar/treasure bill printed out of thin air! <br /><br />- the US has too much deficit that they can't pay even if they charge a 100% income tax on citizens. sure they can defraud, but it would look ugly for them. so here's what they do: they print money! so the bonds middle east (or china) will be worthless and easier to be paid off. <br /><br />AND they let the US dollar drop inrecrementally so YOU will be still sleeping and be boiled like a frog in lukewarm water! <br /><br />One day when the oil are going scarce, it is then they will dig their oil. and this time instead of the 70s, the oil will be much more precious since supply is less. <br /><br />if you know this, you would want to be on the US side of the deal, getting oil, keeping precious oil, losing only paper. on the side of the middle east, you know you lost your irreplaceable natural resources, getting paper that might be good as wall paper soon, VERY SOON. <br /><br />and as a side note, if you wonder why Saddam Hussein, iraq, is attacked for the non-existent "mass weapon of destruction" ? Iraq is one of the two countries in the middle that refused to strike such deal with the US. and the other countries ? Iran. that's why they are demonised by the US mass media owned by those same people. <br /><br />when you peel the union, you see evil after evil and they make sense why 'senseless' things happen one after another. it is for their benefit everywhere. <br /><br />yes, US dollar will collapse, it is all in their plan, for their benefit. we can only blame ourselves for being an idiots all along. <br /><br />protect yourself, read history, know economics. knowledge is your only weapons against these evils. <br /><br />matisseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7814543764754729146.post-71412200128834430002011-06-03T11:51:25.098+08:002011-06-03T11:51:25.098+08:00Joe! save your energy to publish the martin armstr...Joe! save your energy to publish the martin armstrong series. I will refer these articles to my hong kong buddies who do not read english financials stuffs. <br /><br />btw, gold is always a store of value. however, wall street is wall street. speculation game never change. at the end, the top % and top cats will accumulate all the resources in the coming days. the recent price actions do not lie. we could care less about the xyz or abc experts out there. honestly, we DO NOT know how high gold price would grow in nominal term. NO BODY Knows. <br /><br />i do not have the acutal figures. on top of my head, the best assets to invest in past 200 years has been in equities, compared to all kind of assets out there. but people need to do the homework to define secular bull/bear market and follow the trend. <br /><br />keep up the good work! <br /><br />member of SLA.Bill Honghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01663869523524888285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7814543764754729146.post-72891607227365993772011-06-03T10:42:14.786+08:002011-06-03T10:42:14.786+08:00搵到呢篇文出處, 但個個作者/原本media都不同,
http://fjt.ccb.com/gat...搵到呢篇文出處, 但個個作者/原本media都不同,<br /><br />http://fjt.ccb.com/gate/big5/finance.ccb.com/Info/26646260<br />http://finance.people.com.cn/money/BIG5/14588543.html<br />http://finance.people.com.cn/BIG5/14600967.html<br />http://info.wenweipo.com/index.php?action-viewnews-itemid-45208<br />http://aboutxinjiang.com/services/content/2011-05/09/content_5798284.htm<br />http://finance.sina.com.hk/news/32/2/1/3806346/1.html<br />http://finance.ce.cn/rolling/201105/10/t20110510_16575606.shtml<br />http://money.msn.com.cn/gold/20110509/07211235129.shtml<br /><br /><br />當中有幾份指出是源自上海金融報, 但上海金融報網站找不到嘉芙蓮https://www.blogger.com/profile/13590158488492467478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7814543764754729146.post-41289409005733686312011-06-03T10:29:08.736+08:002011-06-03T10:29:08.736+08:00Martin Armstrong Biography
http://www.10sigma.com/...Martin Armstrong Biography<br />http://www.10sigma.com/files/Martin%20Armstrong%20Biography%20May%202011.pdfkidthiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17826076710875284822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7814543764754729146.post-3379725781937804062011-06-03T09:25:16.226+08:002011-06-03T09:25:16.226+08:00所以峰兄引文明顯不夠嚴謹,完全亂來!
------------------------------...所以峰兄引文明顯不夠嚴謹,完全亂來! <br />-------------------------------<br />唔係話峰兄唔嚴謹,而係指引文!gogoldjoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10379385900130057274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7814543764754729146.post-36322680348406614702011-06-03T09:23:56.465+08:002011-06-03T09:23:56.465+08:00當年明報又係有個評論員(唔知叫李乜強),分析黃金對歐羅升2%,歐羅對美元升4%,所以結論係投資歐羅好...當年明報又係有個評論員(唔知叫李乜強),分析黃金對歐羅升2%,歐羅對美元升4%,所以結論係投資歐羅好過黃金。<br /><br />我地笑到噴飯,Joe比指數兄高2寸,指數兄比Gordon兄高4寸,結論係指數兄高過Joe,小學生都知計錯數!gogoldjoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10379385900130057274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7814543764754729146.post-50442585068687494082011-06-03T09:18:39.868+08:002011-06-03T09:18:39.868+08:00calvin,從你引文,當年匯率混亂,一國之內同時有多種匯率,到1979年又變1.5人仔對1美元。所...calvin,從你引文,當年匯率混亂,一國之內同時有多種匯率,到1979年又變1.5人仔對1美元。所以峰兄引文明顯不夠嚴謹,完全亂來!gogoldjoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10379385900130057274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7814543764754729146.post-36809762542832006662011-06-03T09:16:53.528+08:002011-06-03T09:16:53.528+08:00佢d數點計真係唔知wor
"不過,當年10元人民幣的購買力相當於現在的3000元,相差3...佢d數點計真係唔知wor<br /><br />"不過,當年10元人民幣的購買力相當於現在的3000元,相差300倍。"<br /><br />無la la 彈上面個句, 又唔show點計...<br /><br />佢話當年買一盎司黃金,花人民幣147元(當時美元和人民幣匯率是1:4.2),如果現在賣出,得9750元人民幣...<br /><br />我當150元一盎司la, 咁宜家一盎司係9750元人民幣, 9750/15咪知當年10元人仔=宜家既650元購買力law, 真係唔知佢點樣計出$10=$3000(now)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7814543764754729146.post-75617409320702168502011-06-03T09:07:58.248+08:002011-06-03T09:07:58.248+08:0060年前的美元和人民幣匯率是1:4.2?????資料是不是有誤,
上網找找資料, 比我找到一網頁:...60年前的美元和人民幣匯率是1:4.2?????資料是不是有誤, <br />上網找找資料, 比我找到一網頁: http://www.nhu.edu.tw/~society/e-j/87/A28.htm, 第3段有寫到:(1949年1月19日,中國人民銀行以天津口岸的匯價為基準,正式對外掛牌,1美元折合人民幣80元), 60前美元還是強勢, 1:4.5咋聽已經不合理, 1:80還比較合理, 如果匯率是1:80是正確的話, 那當時買一盎司黃金要RMB2800, 現在要RMB9938 (匯率是6.483計), 金價升了43倍的同時, RMB只升了3倍不到, 誰是「大傻瓜」, 誰不是? 請各金銀甲自行分析<br /><br />CALVINAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7814543764754729146.post-64724720233411812282011-06-03T09:06:00.272+08:002011-06-03T09:06:00.272+08:00鋒,呢d問題已討論過n咁多次,如果我同指數兄周旋完,再花時間寫文回答你,我驚呢度師兄們會鬧爆我!
...鋒,呢d問題已討論過n咁多次,如果我同指數兄周旋完,再花時間寫文回答你,我驚呢度師兄們會鬧爆我!<br /><br />脆脆地答一條,其實佢自已踢爆了自已,「如果當年買一盎司黃金,花人民幣147元(當時美元和人民幣匯率是1:4.2),如果現在賣出,得9750元人民幣,約為147元的66倍。不過,當年10元人民幣的購買力相當於現在的3000元,相差300倍。可見藏金60年,貶值接近80%!」<br /><br />當年10蚊人仔等於今日3000購買力,即係話如果當年佢冇買金,儲存10蚊人仔至今,貶值300倍。如果當年買入黃金,今日得9750,即係黃金購買力對人仔升了66.3倍(9750除以10)。如果以今日人仔對美匯計,升幅更大。<br /><br />除非當事人當年能找到保存10蚊人仔購買力的投資,否則乾拿$10人仔不放,就慘了!當年有乜好投資?我真係唔知!gogoldjoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10379385900130057274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7814543764754729146.post-1863801285508991392011-06-03T08:19:31.935+08:002011-06-03T08:19:31.935+08:00各位金銀甲注意 : 藏金60年貶值接近80%
本人都有儲存銀幣 但文匯報post左篇文值得大家討...各位金銀甲注意 : 藏金60年貶值接近80% <br /><br />本人都有儲存銀幣 但文匯報post左篇文值得大家討論<br /><br />以下內容<br /><br />黃金真能保值嗎?<br /><br />自金本位廢除之後,黃金其實只是一種貴金屬而已,與其他任何商品的價格一樣,都是由供求關係決定。兩三年前,就有權威機構研究顯示,黃金的合理價值在500~600美元/盎司之間。就算這幾年美元貶值25%,黃金合理價位也不該超過800美元/盎司。<br /><br />既然如此,那麼目前金價何以超過1500美元/盎司?只要弄清了投資和投機的區別,目前金價之高就不難理解了。其實要論投機回報,近兩年,大蒜、綠豆的價格都能翻番,和田玉的價格漲幅更是超了百倍;黃金還遠不如它的「弟弟」白銀,其價格從去年8月的18美元/盎司,一直到前些日子的50美元/盎司,翻了近三倍。<br /><br />資本市場永遠都會有新故事,不信等黃金泡沫之後,肯定會有其它故事,白銀已經開始,再接下去,銅、鐵、錫……肯定將是你方唱罷我登場。<br />有人聲稱「黃金是『真正的』貨幣,政府或社會發行的法定貨幣只是薄紙一張。」儘管貨幣的確是「薄紙一張」,然而,只要這張薄紙在社會經濟活動中,可以作為交換媒介、記賬單位、價值儲藏和延期付款的標準,被人們普遍接受作為支付商品、服務和償還債務的形式,那它就不只是一張薄紙這麼簡單。<br /><br /><br />還有人說:「投資黃金是明智的決策,因為數千年來它的購買力保持不變。」真是這樣嗎?60年前,很多有錢人把別的財產變賣後買入黃金儲存。我們假設當時買入後留到現在,且來估算一下。當時國際金價為每盎司35美元,現今的金價超過1500美元,上漲幅度為43倍。如果當年買一盎司黃金,花人民幣147元(當時美元和人民幣匯率是1:4.2),如果現在賣出,得9750元人民幣,約為147元的66倍。不過,當年10元人民幣的購買力相當於現在的3000元,相差300倍。可見藏金60年,貶值接近80%!<br /><br /><br />更何況,當下還有華爾街的炒作因素。三十年前金價就曾被華爾街炒作,突破了每盎司850美元。即使按最保守每年3%的通脹率計算,那時850美元,其價值已超過了現在的2000美元。<br /><br />一個40歲的投資者,假如在金價最高位時購入黃金作為退休之用,那就要等到28年之後,金價才可能重新升至850美元的水平,除非他活到80歲,否則就別指望這筆退休金了。<br /><br />總而言之,如果不怕成為最後接棒的「大傻瓜」,盡可以進場去投機;但是希望作為長線投資購入黃金來保值增值的話,則千萬謹慎為宜。<br /><br />索羅斯 巴菲特都睇淡黃金 大家點睇 ?鋒noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7814543764754729146.post-46495463276760090932011-06-03T01:12:31.373+08:002011-06-03T01:12:31.373+08:00Joe 兄,
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iJoe 兄, <br /><br />十幾蚊,唔係野啦, kekekek. 1200 就差唔多!<br /><br />iAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com