2011年5月31日 星期二

世界和平concept







80後指數兄:

我知你個80指數上次俾人踩到一楝都冇,條氣好唔順!今次又搬出個「世界末日concept」論,不過請你用些少心機去做功課啦,一股怨氣都無補於是,只會暴露更多錯處,你唔幫自已,冇人幫到你!上圖是恆指與金價關係圖,由2004年至現在,恆指走勢幾乎跟金價一樣,金價見底回升,恆指亦見底回升,為何會如此,我估計是炒股跟炒金者都是看著個美匯來炒,(此處所講的炒金者不一定純粹指金甲蟲。),你的論點犯了幾個重要盲點:

1/ 將我們所講的貨幣危機、債務危機、政府違約等概念等同「世界末日concept」,並認為此等concept不利股市,所以得出一個股市與金市互相衝突的結論。誰知金股原來冇衝突,相反根據過去7年走勢,金股其實同坐一條船。其實貨幣危機、債券危機(即係你認為的世界末日concept),不單沒有不利股市,相反會令股市飛升,1920年代德國超通係咁,現今津巴布韋股市亦係咁,你可以看看最上幅圖,由2005至2007年間(現在可能更高),因為貨幣大幅貶值,津國工業指數由2000點左右升到4000796點,升了2000倍。(各位金甲當然會知道這是怎麼一回事,希望80後指數兄思考當中意義,如果恆指未來兩年升2000倍,是否一件值得高興之事?)

2/ 兄台認為小弟散播世界末日concept是別有用心,企圖引人入局,從中獲利,但當你認為世界末日concept是胡說八道,覺得股市才是王道時,其實我亦可指責80後指數兄你是想散播「世界和平concept」,企圖引人入市,從中獲利,是別有用心之舉!如果明天股市又來個急跌,又可指責你的「世界和平concept」很OUT!這些就是邏輯盲點,不知你明不明?

不要再亂搬出甚麼指數,甚麼concept,只會愈講愈亂!在舊的uwant論壇及168,已有很多金甲師兄講過(如很久沒上來的基兄三年前就講過50000點不是夢),若繼續印鈔,股市莫講話30000點,像津國一樣300000000點都得,但到時一呎美孚新村是200萬,一隻蛋是3000蚊,就像德國超通時,有上市公司想派幾百萬股息,但股民群起反對,要求以燕麥代替幾百萬股息。

我再次講,金股現階段並沒有衝突,並非你死我亡,反而是唇亡齒寒,危機只針對債市及匯市,尤其是美元,希望80後指數兄能多做功課,共勉之!

56 則留言:

Charen Wan 提到...

Joe:
Thank you very much for your article.
After reading your article, I have some idea out of this topic, I wanna ask when does deflation appear and "what" factor makes delation out?

Why I wanna ask this kind of question because I suddenly remember there are deflation during the lead of our Chief Executive Tung Chi Wah dimension~

Thanks!

嘉芙蓮 提到...

Under Maloney's definition, deflation is a contraction of the currency supply, which causes prices to fall and the value of currency to rise.

Because the vast majority of our currency supply is borrowed into existence, paying down debt removes the currency from the bank’s balance sheets.

In a debt-based economy, the expansion was constantly depend on borrowing.

When people started to panic and begin to pay out debts or countries in the world stop lending to US, the money supply goes down silently, while prices in the early stage still climbing.

However when the economy started to slow down since the printing money dosage effect deteriorates (like now), there will be a viral effect of salary and prices go down, however the amount of debt borrowed (car loan, mortgages, credit card bills) wont decrease.

"With fewer dollars chasing the same amount of goods and services, prices fell, suddenly and dramatically."

and then the loop started : Falling asset prices trigger a fall in profits, resulting in bankruptcies and a tendency among the public to hoard money. Because prices are falling, people believe prices will be lower in the future, so they delay purchases until later. Businesses, who are seeing fewer sales, lose confidence, and the money supply contracts even more—creating a feedback loop.


會唔會又比人話末日論?

匿名 提到...

嘉芙蓮,

As gold (and possibily also silver) bugs will benefit more during a deflation period compare to an inflation period, I am seriouly wonder if those Power Elites will allow deflation to develope, of course before they are certain to out run most.

Generation Next

匿名 提到...

嘉芙蓮,

As gold (and possibily also silver) bugs will benefit more during a deflation period compare to an inflation period, I am seriouly wonder if those Power Elites will allow deflation to develope, of course before they are certain to out run most.

Generation Next

Bill Hong 提到...

Joe! Catherine! very grateful to find your blog. you are like the zero hedge of hong kong. at least, trying to wake up the sheeples using historical facts and history of monetary system. however, i can honestly say, throughout history, (past 400 years), the public (crowds) would end up holding the bags at the end. remember, one of livermore great quotes, "nothing new on stock speculation, it will happen again, again and again, because human nature does not change." recently, we have seen dot com bubbles, housing bubbles, now, as gerald celente pointed out, bailout bubbles. or QE infinity by central banks.

as for hong kong, i think hyperinflation would wipe out Donald Tsang administration or the next one. history would classified them as cover up pundits and letting chinese underground money rmbs to boost the already bubble stage hk real estates. I do NOT blame them. politicians are meant to lie, cheat and steal, right? i have no problem with it. at end, the hong kong people or the general public really need to protect themselves by having metals and some kind of mental preparations for the looming bonds and credit bubble burst started since 2008.

oh well, i talked too much. keep up the good work. You have one more loyal supporter here.

for those speculating in metals, go check out visionvictory, endlessmountain, silverfuturist and max keiser at youtube. these US patriots woke me up around late 2007. (i have no financial relationship with these folks... just another sources for metals knowledge)

peace! god blessed earth. god blessed america.

Bill Hong
member of silver liberation army in hk

Gordon 提到...

Joe兄,

你都出番篇大文"明益80後指數兄"咁喎?
如果佢睇完真係明,知道將來若繼續印鈔,股市點數長期必然大升的前景,我估佢可能仲大聲和有理據推介其他人瞓身買股,嘻嘻。
我估佢食過會番重味,等你!80後指數兄。

匿名 提到...

回應 Bill Hong
感覺上係一個典型俾人洗腦既世界沒日論既白痴仔~
佢一提到SLA我即刻大笑到唔知點~三唔識七認member~叫人睇youtube~有冇search到渣住廢鐵大談世界沒日論既人係幾多~有冇見過人唔食飯要捱bread都要到買到廢鐵~請你地keep住這樣~大談世界沒日論~用恐懼來嚇柒市民換取利潤~but to me it's OUT! 我同J兄都有層樓供緊~好彩你認為樓市有bubble~即係可能你都係買唔起~可能你認為股市都高到有bubble就來爆~咪唔好入貨囉!不過J兄講左廢鐵升股都可以升~所以請你continue to 這樣小朋友想法~因為我需要更多好像你這麼的世界沒日撚~

匿名 提到...

回應 Bill Hong
感覺上係一個典型俾人洗腦既世界沒日論既白痴仔~
佢一提到SLA我即刻大笑到唔知點~三唔識七認member~叫人睇youtube~有冇search到渣住廢鐵大談世界沒日論既人係幾多~有冇見過人唔食飯要捱bread都要到買到廢鐵~請你地keep住這樣~大談世界沒日論~用恐懼來嚇柒市民換取利潤~but to me it's OUT! 我同J兄都有層樓供緊~好彩你認為樓市有bubble~即係可能你都係買唔起~可能你認為股市都高到有bubble就來爆~咪唔好入貨囉!不過J兄講左廢鐵升股都可以升~所以請你continue to 這樣小朋友想法~因為我需要更多好像你這麼的世界沒日撚~

匿名 提到...

原來認為一樣野有bubble..就係買唔起..
超通賬...唔知錢跌得快..定d野升得快呢...
呢個世界都好需要你呢d人繼續買股票唔好買廢鐵架....

Bill Hong 提到...

Reply to 匿名提到... 回應 Bill Hong
感覺上係一個典型俾人洗腦既世界沒日論既白痴仔~

THANK YOU. I really really appreciate your kind words. I love it! you are the best! best in getting very emotional on calling me the doom artist. the metals bugs will unload their metals to you when you start panic buying.

BTW, i am very 白痴仔 have been buying silver at 9 in 2008 and 12 in 2009 and 17 in 2010 and 30 in 2011. lets see who is the 白痴仔 getting rid of worth less papers down the road, while the sovereign debt crisis would wipe out a lot of innocent citizens.

Quote of day to my fellow metals bugs. "if it's written on a piece of paper, it's worth a piece of paper written on" -- Ken Fromme, former oil executive at Altantic Richfield Company in Prudhoe Bay, Alaska.

匿名 提到...

我本人買左白銀

但係我想問

應該甚麼時候放

匿名 提到...

cannot post...Generation Next

匿名 提到...

cannot post...Generation Next

匿名 提到...

回應世界"冇"沒日論兄,
之前那位80後指數兄, 問一問他年紀就失蹤了,希望閣下可以支持得長久一點。
------用閣下的想法鸚鵡學舌地回應---------
感覺上係一個典型俾人洗腦既世界"冇"沒日論既"智障人"~
佢一提到"J兄都有層樓供緊"我即刻大笑到唔知點~三唔識七認"好熟"嗎?~”睇人地個blog”?~有冇search到渣住"樓股"大談世界"冇"沒日論既人係幾多~有冇見過人唔食飯要捱bread都要到買到"樓同抽新股"~請"閣下"keep住這樣~大談世界"冇"沒日論~用"樂觀"來"引誘"市民換取利潤~but to me it's “INCH”!
我同J兄都有"鋪儲金癮"~好彩你認為"金"市有bubble~即係可能你都係買唔起~可能你認為"金"市都高到有bubble就來爆~咪唔好入貨囉!不過J兄講左"金"升股都可以升~所以請你continue to 這樣小朋友想法~因為我需要更多好像你這麼的世界"冇"沒日撚
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水平這樣低,比起168的"雜工"兄也還差很遠………..有何人可以鼓勵我賣銀賣金呢?
See this cartoon, interesting
http://www.oesquema.com.br/trabalhosujo/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/aldous_huxley_vs_geo rge_orwell.jpg

Generation Next

Charen Wan 提到...

Generation Next:
I want someone to convince and encourage me to sell gold in order to get away from gold, but I've tried my best to sell gold, but I have not sell the gold because I cannot convince myself to exchange the gold with USD/HKD. I want a hero to tell me USD/HKD is better than gold

Really! Many Many Thanks a million to all of the anti-gold guy!

匿名 提到...

Joe:
Thank you very much for your article.
After reading your article, I have some idea out of this topic, I wanna ask when does deflation appear and "what" factor makes delation out?

Why I wanna ask this kind of question because I suddenly remember there are deflation during the lead of our Chief Executive Tung Chi Wah dimension~
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我希望來緊幾集馬田大師可給大家一點啟示!董建華時代的通縮,我估計源於歐美的經濟沖擊,製造經濟危機,令資金撤離亞洲,走入美債美元。

而像1870至1900年的全球性通縮(long depression),則是由白銀去貨幣化及打擊林肯綠幣做成,

Joe

匿名 提到...

上面我寫!(Joe)

chapman 提到...

JOE兄,董生年代的通縮,會不會像嘉芙蓮所提到的有關.

那幾年,最大的問題是[負資產],大家不是破產,就是要還債.銀根萎縮,減少消費.結果物價下調.....

一切都係DELEVERAGE的後果....

匿名 提到...

散播世界末日撚洗腦分析機器

~誰搞到世界大亂?美國人(利益集團)~
~誰叫你買股票?美國人(股神)~
~誰搞出bailout及QE1+2?美國人(FED)~
~誰叫你買金銀?美國人(世界末日撚)~

~誰從你身上最後偷走你所有財富?~

唔好再俾同一班人點完你地一次又一次啦!
如果反對我既言論就求你訓身掃貨~呢d位~哈哈!

匿名 提到...

我希望來緊幾集馬田大師可給大家一點啟示!董建華時代的通縮,我估計源於歐美的經濟沖擊,製造經濟危機,令資金撤離亞洲,走入美債美元。

董生年代除左樣樣便宜~仲有一個沙士沖擊~

~當生化沖擊發生前已感到大事不妙,早已別離香江,歐美精英除左經濟沖擊仲唔少得一個生化沖擊。所以董生係業主及打工仔面前成了千古罪人~佢從頭到尾都係一個好既政府代理人~

chapman 提到...

其實一個心智健全,有理性思考的成年人,是不是真的這麼容易[被人蒙蔽]呢?

反過來說,對一群本著同一信念,持之以恆的人,又是不是只用三言兩語(很多還是文理不清的口號叫罵)就可以改變的呢?

我也不信有[世界末日]
BY DEFINITION, 世界末日之後,人類文明不可能再繁衍下去.....

但歷史上,主權國破產,超級通漲,已出現多次,之後人類文明不單沒有消失,反而繁衍得更快.

所謂的[末日],可能只是社會發展的一個必然出現的現象和階段.一切只是時間問題.

Cefull 提到...

Re: Bill Hong
hyperinflation would wipe out Donald Tsang administration or the next one.
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Don't worry, CPI said that the inflation is not very high. If the CPI going up, they will change the way how they calculate the CPI. In fact the CPI can be any number that they want it to be. Under this circumstance, hyperinflation will never occur.
That's why even though the price of food is getting higher, the price of transportation is getting higher, the price of gas is getting higher, the FED is still worrying DEFLATION!!! And they will print another tons of money in QE3456789.

Joe 提到...

其實chapman兄又何需大著意!佢重點只有一個:買股,因為世界會和平,經濟會繼續增長前進!

言論間已隱藏無數自我推翻論點,例如:

-誰叫你唔好買美債呢?美國人(格羅斯)
-誰說美國人沒有想做而做不到事呢?美國人(奧巴馬)
-誰叫你唔好買股票呢?美國人(魯賓尼)
-誰說通賬不會來呢?美國人(伯南克)

如果用80後指數兄的末日論,咁就即係通通不要信!
世界和平concept會一次又一次咁老點你地,如果80指數兄反對我言論,就訓身股市啦-呢d位,哈哈!

美國有好多種人,又係一個言論自由社會,有股神叫人買股,亦有魯賓尼叫人唔好買股。不能以偏概全!而佢所謂既得利益集團大部份唔係美國人,否則股神跟大隻佬州長又何需坐飛機去見阿公?阿公總亦唔係設於美國!

(文字遊戲)

匿名 提到...

佢諗野方式,鍾意簡化,非白即黑,希望得出一條必勝公式,如80指數,世界末日concept!信左一樣野就冇灣轉,但中間充滿左自我茅盾!(joe)

Charen Wan 提到...

小說裡邊有劍魔獨孤求敗, 今有金甲獨孤求敗,
期待各方青年才俊擊敗金甲們的信念,
因為做金甲做得太耐, 想有一些英雄豪傑拯救和
說服到我唔再買金, 因為我一有閒錢就會買,
久而久之買到上左癮, please help

匿名 提到...

In the past, we were ruined by things we hate, war, socialism, confiscation, debased money, force religion.

Now we are ruined by things we love, cheap loan, Google, TV, games....

Why ban sensitive books if no body read it, yes we watch TV and Hollywood. Why do my own knowledge mining if I can Google? Why hard working if I can borrow?






Why think if someone think for me.......

Generation Next

Joe 提到...

小說裡邊有劍魔獨孤求敗, 今有金甲獨孤求敗,
期待各方青年才俊擊敗金甲們的信念,
因為做金甲做得太耐, 想有一些英雄豪傑拯救和
說服到我唔再買金, 因為我一有閒錢就會買,
久而久之買到上左癮, please help
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應該都冇咩有料觀點!其實任何一個市場都可以用類似的世界末日論,例如股市:(暫且叫世界冇事論)

1/ 設立股票交易所係咩人?銀行(交易所股東)
2/ 融資給傳媒出書教人買股票係咩人?銀行(傳媒機構股東)
3/ 借孖展給人炒股票係咩人?銀行(放貸人)
4/ 每日出分析教人買股票係咩人?銀行(分析師)
5/ 令某些銀行破產係咩人?銀行(債權人)
6/ 叫人買股,話長升長有係咩人?銀行(股評人)
7/ 叫人買股票基金係咩人?銀行(職員)
8/ 追孖展,加息係咩人?銀行(收數佬)
9/ 話經濟會增長通常係咩人?銀行(高層)
10/ 通常都係上市公司係咩人?銀行

誰製造股災令你財富蒸發,高層人工高又高,但又教人投資股票,大做股市生意係咩人?

只有單向思維,認為世界總會冇事既人先至會上當!唔好再比銀行玩完一次又一次啦!

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以上純粹玩野,只係想解釋邏輯謬誤!當中更含以偏概全,醒目一定看得出!哈哈!

匿名 提到...

久而久之買到上左癮, please help


你咪買飽佢~最好買到成個倉都係~我認同美元既問題~
我係無間道~同時可持有兩者~只有世界末人撚心態抗拒銀紙~股票~唔係實物就垃圾~你知你自己~世界末日concept的確可以抽唔少油水~不過係時候叫利益集團搞搞新意思~唔好再比美國佬班老細[你知我講咩]棍完一次又一次啦~

匿名 提到...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aovRMnp5cfQ

Youtube~勁多世界末日撚~金銀甲睇到都怕~

匿名 提到...

d無間道最冇品, 最冇POINT, 贊成又講D, 反對又講D, 之後擺自己係道德高地罵美國佬, 自己置身事外, 唔好比我篤爆, JOE逐個POINT回你, 証明你冇咩有料觀點, 你又冇乜quality所以宜家顧左右而言其他, 係男人既衰左唔該應衰, 唔係就自動潛水, 係咁

匿名 提到...

世界和平concept一樣有好多油水,但當中的利益集團亦係時候搞下新意思,而家差不多所有概念都可以推介人買股,通賬有通賬股,疾病就推介醫藥股,中東危機就叫人買科技股,目的就係將d錢留係股市,減低廢紙追逐商品,以減低反映貶值之事實,好多人會用此等concept撈油水,所以耐不耐就會製造股災,然後又叫入趁低位,如此類推,既可賺錢,又可轉移視線,減低廢紙貶值速度,一舉兩得,股市更可發展出眾多衍生市場,如鍋輪,間間行都做,又係一條水路,冇人買股,個個買金銀,真係食西北風!(亂吹)
Joe

匿名 提到...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aovRMnp5cfQ

Youtube~勁多世界末日撚~金銀甲睇到都怕~

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行下書局,教人買股票的書多到一座山,阿貓阿豬阿狗,個個都睇好股市,日日電視電台輪流有專家教你買,所有銀行均附設報價機任督,youtube教人買股者比末日撚不知多幾多?

-世界冇事撚-
-股市王道撚-

睇到人都怕!目的為何?指數兄應最清楚!
joe

匿名 提到...

所有大學大專均設財務系,通通有教股票,所有投資學會亦離不開講股,連小學生理財教學都講股,又設大專模擬買股大賽,從小到大培養,由上而下貫輸,就是世界冇事撚,長渣必勝,整套系統係點運作?大家明唔明?

講影響層面,金銀拍馬屁都追唔上,起碼可以買金銀既銀行五隻手指數得曬,但股票機,全港不知幾萬部,世界冇事撚威力可想而知,目的為何?就是作為整個系統運作配套。

匿名 提到...

匿名 提到...
所有大學大專均設財務系,通通有教股票,....


佢講左成晚, 原來佢只不過係一個股票既得利益者

chapman 提到...

JOE兄,多謝你的意見,小弟也不是真的介意,被取笑和質疑,我想買金甲銀甲定必人人都經歷,連小弟的太座也不能說服我,十個八個匿名,算什麼.

不過小弟對[末世]的言論的確有點感想.

用[末世]一詞,令人有很強的[距離感]有[遙遠]的意味. 但依現今的情況[末世]可以是一觸即發.是一件很貼身的事.

有人說'america is a bug looking for windscreen'.美國有事,香港怎可能沒有問題.

再者,的確沒有必要以[恐懼]去面對,貨幣濫發,通縮,貨幣信心危機,主權國破產,超級通漲等事情.這些[我認為]是其實人類發展的[常態]

匿名 提到...

成個歐元區,美國長期負債,好像希臘要賣家生產,就是系統運作配套excellent.
所有人都買歐債美債,就可以天天過印銀紙的生活了,人生真完美.

歐美永遠都是富裕人生,亞洲中東,非洲等等國家就要養佢地,好完美的系統運作配套。

匿名 提到...

看片段最後,連高油價都壞事變好事,就正如世界冇事論者一樣,任何壞消息都可作好消息講,並指責小心眼者多餘。只有當佢地認為要收割時,好消息才會當壞消息講。目的只有一個,培養人民的賭性及Hill幸心理,將錢暫鎖死在股市,並從中取利,如收取管理費,美國好多退休基金就係咁將錢放在股市幾十年,到最近退休要取回,卻要面對高昂稅款,最後得個吉。(馬田大師文章有講,新澤西已陸續出現)

成立股市目的係乜,十九世紀係融資,而家主要係吸血,只有少數真的有投資價值。其實融資用發債一樣做到,李首富就成日發債,何解要上市發行股票,因發債不會損及投資者本金,但股票就可以。

Joe
又亂吹一龍

匿名 提到...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4bBl7BjyY0

世界冇事論者,聲勢浩大,華美舞台,形仔主講,背後沒銀行及大財團支持又點成事?目的只有一個,叫你對未來一面倒樂觀,放心入市,如以上是針對科技股。但初期所講的力史已將佢出賣。同世界冇事論比,叫人買金買銀的小製作顯得勢孤力弱。

joe

Joe 提到...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3rekhvA9qA&feature=related

各種分析法多如繁星,全球各地都有,目的是龔固整個系統運作,背後當然亦是由銀行資金推動。宣揚世界冇事論,跌只係暫時,總會回升,作用像倫敦金。

Joe
其實都係我亂吹,目的係證明末日撚幾易創造出來!

Joe 提到...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyHw9q_XLGo&feature=relmfu

世界冇事論者前後請了數十位知名人士演講,由科技到投資,到行山,到物理,其實通通跟買股票有關,從中又會列舉好公司為例子說明,目的亦係一樣,將一面倒樂觀情緒灌輸給聽眾,並製成節目行銷全球,以利股市發展。

Joe創造的世界冇事concept

匿名 提到...

金價~爆升~開心吧~銀價~不防睇下youtube有幾多世界末日撚手持等發達~真係唔洗做?~真係奇怪~冇人提QE2完結~你知道你自己玩咩~我都非常清楚~我係呢個時候踢爆係比時間~做對的東西~何必對門入座~其實都係我亂吹~

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晒9氣, 香港人, 10個有9個有玩開股票ga la, 要睇撐股票言論, 我唔使上來金甲銀甲blog睇law

我就係想搵alternative investment先上來搵搵關于金銀既投資方法及分析, 買實貨只係用作store of value. 咁多爭吵基於一個字, "炒" 如果唔係炒, 我買乜野關股票撚, 未日撚無關係, d爭吵都幾無聊, 簡單一句:人地買乜春關閣下Lung 事咩.

匿名 提到...

回應世界"冇"沒日論兄,

晒9氣, 金甲銀甲買乜春關閣下Lung 事咩. 想搵alternative investment先上來搵搵關于金銀既投資方法及分析,你清楚自己玩咩? 你知道你自己踢爆咩?
何必對門入座?
簡單一句:人地買乜春關閣下Lung 事咩.

(真方便,copy & past 你寫的就可以了,打多隻字都唔駛。)

Generation Next

匿名 提到...

佢都話自已亂吹!冇乜所謂啦!我求奇搵下資料,都可以整個世界冇事論,甚實以佢邏輯,仲可以整多好多論理出來,只要果樣野有一批人睇好及相信就可以。例如醫生健康論:

邊個叫你有病要睇醫生?醫生
邊個開醫院?醫生
邊個製藥?醫生
邊個製藥令細菌出現抗藥性?醫生
邊個培訓醫生?醫生

唔好俾人棍完一次又一次啦,醫生是你有病受益人,同時佢地又製造好多疾病,所以有病千奇唔好睇醫生!

好唔好笑?

匿名 提到...

仲有個時裝陰謀論:

邊個話某某潮流In?時裝設計師
邊個話某某潮流Out?時裝設計師
邊個設計時裝?時裝設計師
邊個開時裝店?時裝設計師
邊個統籌製做時裝?時裝設計師
邊個係時裝雜誌推介時裝?時裝設計師

唔好俾時裝設計師棍完一次又一次啦,時裝設計師是你鍾意買衫的最大幕後黑手,所以出街唔好著衫!

咁又得!

匿名 提到...

樓上兄台似乎係講緊引導性反話,高手一名!

醫生?你指西醫生?
買時裝同唔好著衫出街有乜關系呢?

你不如話d米商係商家佬,而商家佬都係奸嘅,所以吳好食飯吖!
(呢個係典型邏輯三段推論噃)

Tik Sun 提到...

利昌會收 SCOTTSDALE STACKER SILVER BAR 嗎

匿名 提到...

利昌應該乜銀都收!

Tik Sun 提到...

他是怎樣計算回收價的?我有打電話去問過,佢剩係叫我拎個銀比佢地睇左先講

kidthief 提到...

電話無好難講到又唔知道真定假...
價位又會改變...

Joe 提到...

樓上兄台似乎係講緊引導性反話,高手一名!

醫生?你指西醫生?
買時裝同唔好著衫出街有乜關系呢?

你不如話d米商係商家佬,而商家佬都係奸嘅,所以吳好食飯吖!
(呢個係典型邏輯三段推論噃)
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我都係講下笑姐,其實指數兄的邏輯好易拆解,簡單講即係「一定別有用心」論,內容:無論任何人給某人任何建議,一定係為了搵著數、撈油水!例如A想跳樓,B是保險經紀,剛路過,想阻止,充滿「一定別有用心論」的A就會諗,為何B要阻止,得出原因:

1/ B是保險經紀,勸阻後會sale保單
2/ B是保險經紀,佢為跳樓所在的大廈承了保,A跳樓可能損毀大廈,B要賠償。
3/ B是保險經紀,佢為跳樓所在大廈外的車輛承了保,A跳下去會損毀汽車,B要賠償。
4/ B是保險經紀,佢正與A老婆傾保單,快埋尾,若A死,老婆要忙於辨身後事,險單會泡湯。

所以A得出結論,B別有用心!如果不跳樓,B會有著數及油水。結果其實B只係路過,出於好心,叫佢唔好跳樓!

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Cefull 提到...
Don't worry, CPI said that the inflation is not very high. If the CPI going up, they will change the way how they calculate the CPI. In fact the CPI can be any number that they want it to be. Under this circumstance, hyperinflation will never occur.
That's why even though the price of food is getting higher, the price of transportation is getting higher, the price of gas is getting higher, the FED is still worrying DEFLATION!!! And they will print another tons of money in QE3456789.

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QE infinity will be implemented this month. we will suffer needflation. things we need already in inflation mode. again, let the so called "experts" economists can debate all they want. let the printing press rolls on.

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Charen Wan 提到...
Generation Next:
I want someone to convince and encourage me to sell gold in order to get away from gold, but I've tried my best to sell gold, but I have not sell the gold because I cannot convince myself to exchange the gold with USD/HKD. I want a hero to tell me USD/HKD is better than gold

Really! Many Many Thanks a million to all of the anti-gold guy!
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Charen/Generation Next.
let me play the devil advocate here:

1. govt and central will make gold illegal. it happened back in 1930s. the US FDR days in 1932

2. digital currency will rule over the conventional one. too many facebook, twitter, online messengers and paypal. the young generations 80s 90s. 00s 10s are adapted to use digital one.

3. capital tax rule: IRD or IRS will issue 90% capital gain tax on gold/silver transaction

4. govt will impose restriction laws on mining companies forcing them to reduce production.

5. Trust Hong Kong and China govt -convert your metals to HKD/Yuan papers. the rising Dragon will take over US and EU as the #1 economic power house in the world. "btw, i stole this one from our current brainwashed politicians who have no idea what kind of crisis we r facing"

sure. who would want to live in 1984 orwell style world? or potential dirt nap ussr fallout in empire usa.

let the printing press rolls on!

理性分析 提到...

>樓上兄台似乎係講緊引導性反話...
>我都係講下笑姐,其實指數兄的邏輯好易拆解...
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Sorry呀!Joe兄,因倉卒無睇上截文章原來你地係到debate緊。不由分說,不知上文下理,中間插咀,確實魯莽,恕罪、恕罪!

睇"指數兄"文章的觀點,其實佢誤解左擁愛金銀者是趁火打劫唯恐天下不末日之徒...

Joe 提到...

完全正確!因為佢對經濟唔了解,對歷史唔了解!

匿名 提到...

個位人兄好代已經潛左水

路見不平